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"I want her affirmation, and when we are in different kinds of struggles, in our particular case, obviously, we were struggling against an oppressive system. At one time one of the apartheid government ministers said, “The problem with Desmond Tutu is that he talks too much,” and so when I got home on that day, I said to Leah, “Do you want me to keep quite or what”? Do you think I talk too much?” and she said, she would much rather I was happy on Robben Island than to be free and quiet outside and that was an incredible affirmation that stood me in good stead."